12 Responses to “Socialized Health Care Advocates; How Do You Think Medical Care Workers Will Adjust Too?”

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   vtjames7 said on Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 3:22

   You know what they are banking on??? Doctors have no where else to run- many of them came here to escape socialized medicine in Europe and Canada- fact- but where would they be able to flee to?
   It is a bad system that doesn’t work which is why just about every nation with socialized medicine is turning to free market solutions to help get them out of trouble
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   nomad said on Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 5:59

   Once the Fed’s take over, there will most certainly be forced pay scales and longer hours. There will also be nurse shortages, as we see in Canada.
   What about smokers and drinkers? Once the Fed realizes how much money it can save by reducing the cases of illnesses related to smoking or drinking, watch your freedom go out the window.
   Socializing the health care system here is the first step to grey uniforms comrads.
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   Dani said on Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 6:28

   Hillary seems to think it will be tuned as sweetly as a concert pianist’s concerto. But even on its best day, government controlled health care could be nothing more than mediocre. When it comes to our lives and the lives of loved ones, who wants to settle for that? Also, I suspect medical school enrollments will see a sharp decline.
   France was mentioned. Good point. There are several thousand retired Americans living around the Lake Chapala area resorts in Mexico. After a probabationary period, they also have excellent health care that is very inexpensive. .
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   ideogene said on Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 12:00

   Are you familiar with the concept of price elasticity?
   For some silly reason, conservative critics of national health insurance seem to think that once medical care is paid for through a national health insurance system people will spend their days in the doctor’s office.
   Picture a stunt by a cardio-vascular surgeon whereby he puts a sign in his office window (or purchases billboard space on a freeway) with the offer: “Buy one heart-bypass, get one heart-bypass free!”
   How many people will take that offer? None! Because people don’t respond to price signals in health care. Their behavior is guided solely by health need. Health-care is NOT a normal market and can’t be governed by market forces. Responding to price signals in health-care can mean DEATH: “Uh oh, I’m having a heart attack but I can’t afford help now- I’ll save up for it and go later!”
   In fact, every industrialized nation on earth has the ethical integrity to declare it immoral to subject health-care to the whims of market forces. Everyone except the United States.
   Why?
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   ninaol said on Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 12:08

   2 urban hospitals close to the facility that I am employed at announced that they will closing their doors by this coming summer. I work in the ER and we have steadily seen an increase of patients for the past several months so your 1st statement is false. Emergency rooms across America have seen increases in patients. Possible longer hours—- I and the rest of my peers stay past our shifts to ensure our patients get the best possible care. Forced pay scales — don’t think so. There is a country wide nursing shortage and in fact with the baby boomers aging the demand for healthcare jobs is predicted to grow for many years to come. Your worst case scenario is already here my friend without socialized medicine. When we allow HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS and not drug manufacturers and insurance companies to dictate how and when a patient can be treated then we can begin to fix the system. It is not about free healthcare — it is access to affordable healthcare.
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   granddad said on Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 14:11

   Go spend the next 3 weekends in the Emergency Room,talk to the people in the waiting area.
   Do they work?
   Do they have insurance,outside of some government program?
   Are they there for a Head Cold? ( yes,they do show up for that )
   Are they there with a Drug problem?
   As a volunteer EMT,I spent a lot of weekends in the ER.
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   Anonymous said on Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 21:09

   I am for more of a mixture, with government oversight of insurance. insurance companies are in for profit of course, which is a slap in the face for citizens who greatly need care. So, if you have a pre-existing condition, insurance will most likely not carry you or not treat the condition. I believe regulations need to be set – but of course, the insurance companies are a large lender to the US Government, so this will never happen
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   Lisa M said on Thursday, September 17, 2009, 2:45

   As far as adapting, it won’t effect most of us. There is already a large government health program, and most of us don’t have anything to do with it.
   The system won’t collapse because the majority of us will retain our private healthcare. I don’t see doctor shortages in the future; rather, I see an adjustment in the pay scale of insurances.
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   slykitty said on Thursday, September 17, 2009, 3:32

   Most nurses I know already work 12 hr shifts, have lots of patients per day and a pay scale set by the place they work at. Hospitals and health care facilities are now run to be money makers. They are cutting staff and making decisions based on the almighty bottom line. How would your scenario be ANY different? Stop trying to spread lies about UHC.
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    countryf said on Thursday, September 17, 2009, 5:47

    no one in my small town is ever turned away because of money issues.the Dr will see anyone who needs to see a Dr. I do have health insurance and it does not bother me to share a waiting room with a poor person. the Dr is not rich or even have goals to be rich, and she does not do it out of religious convection’s. she once told me of the 8 years she has been here she has never taken anyone to collection. what we really need in this country is more doctors with convection’s to help the sick, rich or poor
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    pdooma said on Thursday, September 17, 2009, 10:54

    Maybe they’ll finally be able to unionize? Or they can decide to accept cash only patients – it’s been a trend in mental health care already.
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    tyler "god of typos" said on Thursday, September 17, 2009, 15:14

    i don’t ask france,they rank number 1 in healthcare they probably could answer ur question since they’re #1 in the world