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Should Health Care Be Ruined In America Because Only 85% Of Those Living Here Are Covered By Medical Insurance?

Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 6:42
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22 Responses to “Should Health Care Be Ruined In America Because Only 85% Of Those Living Here Are Covered By Medical Insurance?”

  1. Warren Peace said on Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 10:59

    this is a disaster waiting to happen. they lie and say you can keep your insurance,when in fact your company can opt out for the government plan as it is cheaper.there is nothing in place to prevent that.they know it and purposely let that in there.

  2. pfat said on Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 14:31

    No, that’s the number of american citizens that are without health insurance. You’re already paying for their healthcare anyways, because when they show up at a hospital with an emergency, they can’t turn them away. Now instead of an open bill from the hospital, the government will be able to regulate how much they spend for those life saving procedures.
    Things are always cheaper when you buy in bulk, and fifty heart attacks will cost a lot less in the long run than the 1.

  3. Doc said on Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 18:26

    The answer is unequivocally “No.” If they REALLY wanted to address the issue of the 1% of the citizenry who is without insurance, they should look at the education system. Those same people are the ones who graduated high school (maybe) and went straight into the work force as unskilled, untrained labor who, if it were not for unionized labor would make little more than minimum wage. Those who enter the work force with nothing more than a high school diploma or a GED enter in at the lowest possible level. Perhaps if they’d been trained to do SOMETHING, they could afford things like health care. But then, they also manage to afford their cigaretes, beer, cell phones, flat screen TVs, new cars and internet service… Something to do with “choice?”
    Dear Queen B: So, you have a Ph.d?

  4. PrivacyN said on Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 23:47

    Insurance Companies are middle men between patients and physicians. Substandared care is very profitable.
    For too many people that Insurance is only good as long as they stay relatively healthy. If they do get a serious illness beyond what the Insurance wants to pay then their claims may be wrongly denied and their policy canceled.
    “It’s True! Health Insurers Tell Congress They Cancel Policies of Sick Patients
    Category: Laboratory News, Laboratory Pathology
    Published: July 6 2009
    Rescinding health policies of 20,000 people in past five years saved health insurers $300 million
    For years, Americans have heard news stories about the sick patient whose health insurance policy was rescinded in the midst of a health crisis. Now comes public acknowledgement—at a Congressional hearing no less—that this business practice exists!
    Executives from three of the nation’s largest health insurers admitted to this practice when testifying at a Congressional investigation recently. Observers believe the surprisingly candid acknowledgement about health insurance recessions pretty much guarantees insurers will be excluded from the health care reform debate. It may even ensure inclusion of a government health insurance plan in the final legislation which passes.”
    Blue Cross sued over cancelled policies
    L.A. city attorney accuses insurer of illegally rescinding 6,000 plans
    The Associated Press
    updated 5:16 p.m. PT, Wed., April 16, 2008
    LOS ANGELES – The city attorney is seeking up to $1 billion in fines and restitution from the state’s largest health care insurer, charging Anthem Blue Cross with deceptive practices and unlawfully terminating policies when people needed health care most.
    Los Angeles City Attorney Rocky Delgadillo said the insurer, formerly known as Blue Cross of California, illegally rescinded more than 6,000 insurance policies. Some of those policies affected elderly patients and some denied patients with health costs that topped $100,000.
    “Blue Cross hides from consumers the fact that if the consumer requires an expensive medical procedure, there is a significant likelihood that Blue Cross will cancel their insurance policy,” Delgadillo said Wednesday, the same day his office filed a lawsuit in Superior Court accusing the company of violating laws prohibiting unfair competition and false advertising.
    September 16, 2008
    Health Net To Reinstate Canceled Health Insurance Policies in California, Pay Fine, Reimburse Former Plan Members For Denied Claims Health Net on Thursday agreed to reinstate coverage for 926 former members in California whose health insurance policies were canceled after they filed claims and to pay $3.6 million in fines, the Los Angeles Times reports. The company also will pay as much as about $14 million to reimburse expenses for medically necessary care that would have been covered had the policies not been cancelled.
    July 1, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHCQc-wwz…
    July 30, 2009
    Gallop Poll Shows That US Health Care Sucks
    By Mitch Cumstein
    Well the analysis by Gallup didn’t actually say that the US health care system sucks, but that’s the gist of it.
    In Great Britain, satisfaction with access to affordable healthcare (43%) is consistent with satisfaction with quality (42%). In Canada, satisfaction with access to affordable healthcare (57%) is slightly higher than satisfaction with quality (52%). But the most dramatic variation in satisfaction with these two facets of the healthcare system occurs in the United States, where only 25% are satisfied with the availability of affordable healthcare, but 48% are satisfied with quality. Once again, this dichotomy seems to support the hypothesis that private healthcare encourages high-quality standards, but may be a barrier to access and affordability.
    On a less relative basis, the fact that 72% of Americans say they are dissatisfied with the availability of affordable healthcare, and 50% are dissatisfied with the quality of medical care are cause for concern. Regardless of how these numbers measure up to those in Canada and Great Britain, they indicate that the U.S. healthcare system has considerable room for improvement.
    Basically it boils down to one thing. If you have health “insurance,” you get quality health care and you’re probably pretty happy. However, if you don’t have health “insurance” then you probably don’t get very good health care and you’d like something done about that.
    But no matter how you slice it, we’re spending more than twice as much per person to provide health care than everyone else and access is limited therefore the quality of care sucks. The question of quality can’t be separate from that of access. If people can’t access the health care system, then who gives a crap how great the care would be if they could access it.
    I have posted a great deal on this subject for several days now because of personal experience rather then political ideology or party loyalty. It is a long sad story which involves the death of my husband and I will not subject you with the details here and now. Just know that there are good, hard working, honest Americans who have been chewed up and spit out for the Profit Goals of our current health care system. The fear propaganda worked to stop Health Care reform under Clinton in the 90′s and I will not sit quietly and see it happen again.

  5. pushyold said on Thursday, December 3, 2009, 4:51

    PUt all uninsured on Medicaid up to a certain income level, like $50,000 a year for a couple. for those who make more than that, they can buy their own private policy. If they don’t want to buy insurance, a 1 million dollar bond could be purchased to cover their possible future needs. Pass a law to make insurance companies accept everyone regardless of condition, and forbid them from dropping anyone for getting sick. Nothing public for illegals, they have to buy private insurance regardless of their incomes.
    Of course, this would begin a new round of personal micromanagement of the American lifestyle by the insurance industry. Are you sure that’s what you want?

  6. Adam said on Thursday, December 3, 2009, 10:59

    Statistically. You’re forgetting that most of those 85% face potential bankruptcy if they have a fatal disease, as their insurance still might not cover it, which kinda defeats the point of having it. Plus those born with disabilities have to be heaped with huge insurance bills.
    And 15% of your population is huge; 45 million Americans, citizens of your own country can’t get basic health care. The illegals problem is overstated; it’s fairer to say that most of the 15 % are not illegals, and are honest people being denied basic health by a cruel system.
    If you can afford health care, good for you, I hope it never gets to the point where you can’t. But at least have some sympathy for those who simply don’t have the money.
    I don’t agree with Obama’s plan, but American does really need some kind of reform to give all people basic health care. Just do what Britain has; have private care and public care systems ran side by side. If you don’t want a public system, fine go private. But you will probably find, as most of Europe has, that a nationalised health care is more than adequate. The horror stories ran by Fox News are half-truths at the best, outright lies at the worst.

  7. B.L.A. said on Thursday, December 3, 2009, 15:26

    There is no 85% of peoples in this country that have health care . How did you come up with that number we are aware that conservative have a problem with math but this is flat out ridiculous . Maybe you are referring to the the peoples who have insurance and 85 % of them say they are happy with their health care .

  8. FozzieBe said on Thursday, December 3, 2009, 17:39

    You’re missing the point. They’re trying to get everyone to believe that they won’t have to pay for their health insurance anymore, yet they’ll continue to get the same quality care. They’re sucking up to every single American and illegal who is too stupid to have learned that you get what you pay for.
    .

  9. Anonymous said on Thursday, December 3, 2009, 21:02

    Why do you want other people to pay for your medical care. When you enroll in insurance, other people get to pay the remainder of the health care costs that you don’t have to pay.
    You just get your welfare from a corporation and private citizens.

  10. White House Watching said on Friday, December 4, 2009, 3:53

    No but this is the typical Democrat Mindset punish the majority for the few.
    If the Democrats allowed Religion to function without fear of prosecution as it did years ago the poor would be taken care of.

  11. fbomonke said on Friday, December 4, 2009, 9:32

    15% that are not cover include people that have so much money that they self insure or they are illegals soaking up my tax dollars on medicare.
    The true number of people that can’t get health insurance is so small that it is not worth worrying about.

  12. sarahros said on Friday, December 4, 2009, 9:38

    Most are happy with there current health coverage, under the new govt health care, we will pay more for health care through higher taxes, but the unemployed/illegal aliens/welfare will continue to pay nothing…

  13. Ggggbbb said on Friday, December 4, 2009, 10:54

    only 85%???
    i would say that’s 100% of the dedicated, deserving people

  14. Anonymous said on Friday, December 4, 2009, 13:50

    No; it is just that not just Government officials and other special people should have good health care; the rest of us who work for a living deserve it also!

  15. Queen B said on Friday, December 4, 2009, 16:21

    I gather the question and answers once again will come from un-educated people. So I will just read and laugh…This is the best site for idiotic opinion. (The sky is falling tactics) LOL!!!

  16. beach heaven said on Friday, December 4, 2009, 21:39

    No, but we do need torte’ reform as well as revamping the Medicare system and Medicaid.

  17. Dem Stranded on Broken Escalator said on Saturday, December 5, 2009, 2:23

    no

  18. uwishedu said on Saturday, December 5, 2009, 6:56

    “Universal” health care is not just about having a heart.
    What happens to the 85% if they contract a deadly disease (say swine flu) from the 15% and their health care can’t cure in time what overall prevention could have?

  19. Depirts said on Saturday, December 5, 2009, 8:07

    Should any 15% of the population lives’s be at risk in America because 85% of those living here are already covered by medical insurance?

  20. Kiss me I have Swine Flu said on Saturday, December 5, 2009, 9:18

    It won’t be ruined. There will be just another system like medicare out there.

  21. ..???.. said on Saturday, December 5, 2009, 12:26

    Absolutely not.
    That’s why we need health care reform.

  22. Monkey Lover said on Saturday, December 5, 2009, 12:48

    idk

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