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Isn’t The Conservative Notion That Medical Care Is Only A Right In The Emergency Room Like Saying…?

Sunday, November 29, 2009, 6:43
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14 Responses to “Isn’t The Conservative Notion That Medical Care Is Only A Right In The Emergency Room Like Saying…?”

  1. CONvict Shrubya said on Sunday, November 29, 2009, 12:37

    they don’t seem to understand that they already pay for the uninsured through higher medical costs which result in higher co-pays, higher deductibles and higher premiums. Additionally, the uninsured can’t get treatment from primary care doctors so they put off treatment until their health is worse and more expensive to treat and then they go to emergency rooms which is way more expensive.
    Bottom line – WE ARE ALL ALREADY PAYING!

  2. rrm38 said on Sunday, November 29, 2009, 13:24

    Personally, I don’t believe it should be a right in an emergency room. Prove you have the ability to pay/insurance or go to a charity hospital that relies on private donations (no tax dollars). Health care is NOT a right. If more people understood this and assumed more personal responsibility we wouldn’t be having this debate. Reform can happen without giving people insurance. The true causes for high costs (waste, malpractice, unnecessary testing, etc) need to be addressed to make it more affordable. Putting everyone on a HMO won’t fix the problem.

  3. Peace through blinding force said on Sunday, November 29, 2009, 17:22

    The Democrat claim that we DO think that is a lie.
    Your claim that medical care is a right AT ALL positively cannot be defended without claiming the Doctors, nurses and such are YOUR PROPERTY.
    “The conservative notion” is that like yourself, those people enjoy self-ownership. We expect, but do not demand, that they give people stabilizing care as a moral duty, not because the person has any “right” to their services.

  4. Lilly said on Sunday, November 29, 2009, 18:55

    I’m not sure where you got this notion but it’s way off base.
    And while we’re on the subject of emergency room use, let me tell you that I was a public assistance caseworker for 28 years. I processed thousands of medical cards for clients every year. Many clients abuse the privilege of getting to use the ER. Instead of waiting to see their primary physicians for things like strep throat or a sprained ankle, they rush to the ER. Those of us who work and pay for medical insurance go to the ER only for emergencies. Many people on the medical card use the ER because there is no penalty for them if they misuse of the ER for non-emergent situations. They love to bring friends and family, create noise and drama in the ER, adding to the stress of those who are waiting with REAL emergencies. They love the attention and the drama. THEY THRIVE ON IT. I’m not referring to all who are on the medical card, but I am definitely referring to a great number of them.
    Do you have any idea how expensive it is for taxpayers to foot the bill for all of these unnecessary ER visits? And of course the hosp. staff can not turn them away. Not only is this a costly visit, it ties up the hosp. staff who should be working on REAL emergencies such as heart attacks. Ohhhhhh the insanity.

  5. KS said on Sunday, November 29, 2009, 23:40

    no one is saying medical CARE is a right only in the ER. Medical care is a right anywhere. Insurance however, is a benefit or a privilege.
    You can go to any Dr or hospital and be treated and they offer payment plans. I have done this several times.
    what we are saying is that if you read the bill you will see the horrible policies. We do not want government controlling our health care. We do not want people in Washington deciding our medical treatments.

  6. RitchWil said on Monday, November 30, 2009, 3:18

    Oh, medical care IS a right. I’d stand shoulder to shoulder with you, brother, if you were EVER denied medical care because of your color, race, creed, religion or liberal views. So yes. No one should ever be denied health care for any reason.
    What is NOT a right is to require others to pay for that care. THAT is a responsibility. YOUR responsibility. Get it? You have a right to medical care, but you do NOT have a right to force me to pay for it.
    You see, that’s the thing about rights. ‘Rights’ cost nothing to maintain. My right to life, liberty, free speech, practice religion, keep and bare arms, to vote, to assemble, all these things cost me and you nothing. Not a dime. But as soon as you start expecting others to support you and to pay your way in life? Well, that’s not a right. NO ONE has the right to demand that others support them. That is a RESPONSIBILITY. Your responsibility.
    Hope that helps.

  7. as.erwin said on Monday, November 30, 2009, 8:26

    Interesting analogy.
    But, driving isn’t a right. It is a privilege… that is why you have to have a license… Your insurance, though required is not granted to you by the state… And, when you have insurance, it doesn’t pay for oil changes or break jobs does it?
    If health care is a right… and the government has any power at all to take it away… or even regulate it… is it really a right?
    Look up the word RIGHT.

  8. Dr_knowi said on Monday, November 30, 2009, 14:53

    SOCIALIZED HEALTH CARE WILL COST MORE THAN PRIVATE CARE AND THE SERVICE WILL SUCK.
    We will also lose I freedoms, First a fat tax…. next people who drive sports cars will pay a tax and people who ski will pay a tax because they are dangerous activities. You are inviting Governemt to run you life

  9. Rayne Storm said on Monday, November 30, 2009, 17:17

    Actually, conservatives say that medical care isn’t a right at all
    What we say is, medical care is available to everyone in an emergency room
    Everything costs money…We have to pay for it…That’s life

  10. Matt W said on Monday, November 30, 2009, 18:50

    Medical care will be provided to those who need it regardless of their ability to pay. The bill, however, is not the responsibility of the American tax payer. Sorry…

  11. amazin'g said on Monday, November 30, 2009, 22:01

    Oh please, please educate yourself. We have medicaid and clinics with sliding fees. We have Medicare for seniors. No one is without recourse.

  12. FLbeachG said on Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 3:36

    I am not against Anyone having health insurance. I Am against it interfering with mine and I am against the Entire country being Forced to be a part of this.

  13. Tsar Brainless Harry Reid said on Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 5:40

    Go back to class. You are wasting your ability to learn by skipping your classes being on here speaking of what you no nothing about.

  14. Kyle C said on Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 11:22

    Destroy the FDA drugs would be 50%+ cheeper…

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