How Do You Think A Socialized Health Care System Would Affect Our Economy And The Quality Of Medical Help?
Sunday, September 13, 2009, 0:46
i have my opinions, but id like to see some debates.
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Whiteric said on Sunday, September 13, 2009, 2:26
I think it will do roughly what it has done for other countries. It has created an artificial shortage of specialists because the additional training does not come with additional benefits. There is also a lack of higher end equipment in Europe and Canada. The US has 4x the number of MRI machines per capita as Canada. It will eventually force bureaucrats to make life or death choices for you in the name of cost effectiveness. Currently, it is the individual who gets to decide which treatments they buy through which insurance packages they buy. The fact is that while European countries may have longer life spans, the US has far higher survival rates from diseases including every form of cancer. It is because of the additional testing that for-profit medical care encourages. It is more expensive to cover Americans because we get better care. Many in Canada are trying to opt into private plans because the public plan simply doesn’t work.
Secondly, i think that it will stifle medical innovation. Profit drives innovation and without it, technology stagnates
It also turns out that if you remove non-natural forms of death, car accidents, murders, etc, which the us has far more of, then the life expectancies become far more similar
Texas Hobo said on Sunday, September 13, 2009, 9:08
It would be exorbitantly expensive and a big drain on the economy, causing everyone to be poorer. The quality and availability of healthcare would be much worse than it is now.
Imagine waiting for months to see a doctor or a year for life-saving surgery. Imagine standing in line at the ER for 9 hours to talk to a nurse, not a doctor, who tells you to make an appointment with a specialist. That could mean months of waiting.
Watch this video:http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/scrowd…
And at the same time you can go to the vet and get the same blood test for a pet in 15 minutes that would take months for you to get.
The Patriot said on Sunday, September 13, 2009, 12:26
Look abroad.
First of all, too many people do not know that Obama wants to make insurance more available to all.
Second, of course universal health-cover sucks. That is why we in Western Europe have it. We think, hmm, our healthcare system sucks. I know, lets keep it. I guess that is the same with Japan and Canada as well.
FACT – the USA spends more on healthcare PER PERSON than any other nation on the planet.
FACT – the US has higher death rates for kids aged under five than western European countries with universal health coverage.
That means that a dead American four year old would have had a better chance of life if they were born in Canada, France, Cuba, Germany, Japan etc, all of which have universal health coverage.
So think, why does no other western nation have the US system of healthcare?
Tyler said on Sunday, September 13, 2009, 18:38
i think it would make it take way too long to get to get into a hospital or doctor, and just take way too long, waiting rooms would be packed, plus the price of the socialized health care would cause inflation and hurt americans because they wouldnt have any money and then they would not spend and the economy would be hurt.
robzuc97 said on Monday, September 14, 2009, 0:01
I’d like a 1963 Corvette but I can’t afford that either! The government cannot even operate the VA and Medi-care systems efficiently (even at high profile posts such as Walter Reed) but they think they can do better managing everyone elses care? Right at this moment, my back is KILLING me from a [military] service-related injury but I can’t get pain medicine from the VA without a note from the Surgeon General first! “Change We Can Believe In”? Belief {believe}: a conviction or certainty, often regarding God or a supreme being. How appropriate!
littlego said on Monday, September 14, 2009, 4:36
I am a citizen of a federally recognized Native American Indian tribe who has access to “free” medical and dental care. I get eye examinations and prescription lenses w/no charge. My children and my children’s children are also eligible to receive benefits through their tribal ancestry.
My husband is a “veteran” and receives medical, dental, and vision benefits through the Veterans Administration.
I think my husband and I are both receiving “socialized” health care.
For over 50 years, my husband and I paid into private medical insurance. When we retired, we could not afford to maintain that coverage. We do not pay into Part B of Medicare/Medicaid. The premium for both of us would be over $200 a month.
My oldest daughter’s husband served over twenty years in the U.S. military. She and her children were receiving medical care on “your dime”. My youngest daughter and her husband were in the military for over 12 years. Their daughter was born in a military hospital–no charge. You paid for that birth.
My oldest daughter is now married to a citizen of the U.K, a country that has socialized medicine. Check the tax rate in the U.K. My daughter informs me that she and her husband will gladly pay to consult a physician of their choice rather than go to a physician on the U.K. list.
The U.S. economy has been drastically affected by rising physician and hospital costs over the past 25 years;but, the cost of becoming a physician has also rose.
I can’t speak to “quality” of medical help in relation to “socialized” health care because in my 68 years, I have had several private physicians who I didn’t consider “quality”.
Economically, I believe a “socialized” health care system will be no cost to anyone earning less than $40,000 a year, an extreme cost on those who earn $40,000 to $100,000 a year, a minimal cost for those who earn $100,000 to $500,000, and no cost to those who earn more than $500,000 a year.
I believe, if doctors depend upon subsidation by the “government”, the quality of health care will deteriorate.
abalone_ said on Monday, September 14, 2009, 11:11
I figure if you have enough money you can get the care you need, if not, get in line. It will not get better for a very long time.
Sci Fi Fan said on Monday, September 14, 2009, 15:24
Illegal aliens and so-called minorities will get totally free health care, white people will pay for most of it and get nothing.
Thomas said on Monday, September 14, 2009, 21:31
Imagine the DMV inside your doctor’s office.