Months of waiting for treatment, no second opinions, no choice to pay for a private doctor because they are all govmnt referals, and treatment based on age restrictions like a 65 yr old not getting a knee replacement because they are deamed less important than to the system than younger candidates…they get a cotisone shot or go to India for treatment.
I know, I’am an EMT-B and live close to Canadian border with Canuck freinds.
Obamas social healthcare would be a disaster.
rhsaunde said on Thursday, October 1, 2009, 15:38
Canada is certainly a good example of what no one should want in the US. Canadians come to the US to get care that they cannot get at home; if the US adopts a plan like Canada, where will Americans go to get care?
mr_crank said on Thursday, October 1, 2009, 17:42
Actually a lot of family members live in canada and they like it just fine. Also, I want socialized medicine like Canada and I’m sorry to inform you that Obama isn’t going to give it to us. Many like me are disappointed about this. He is much more conservative on this issue than I am and I’m sad that he’s not going to push for single-payer like most of the free world.
But I guess the facts get in the way of your hysteria.
BROWNSKI said on Thursday, October 1, 2009, 20:03
Where did you get the idea that Senator Obama has a socialist health care plan. Why don’t you all stop making up stupid lies,. It’s ok to disagree with Senator Obama’s politics or anyone else, for that matter, but can’t you do it with telling lies. The problem here is that there is some young influential people on this site, you may very well be one yourself, however you have a responsibility to be factual.
Mullah Marmoulak, Atheist Besar said on Friday, October 2, 2009, 1:46
Blather on. My cousin lives in Sweden and isn’t coming back. They airlifted her infant daughter from her and her husband’s farm when little Katie had leukemia. She’s alive and doing fine. Out of pocket costs for treatment were $300 per year.
P*ss off, liar.
Natty-Le said on Friday, October 2, 2009, 6:47
Yes. A lot of countries in the world have universal health care.
Real American Against Socialism said on Friday, October 2, 2009, 12:26
I have not seen it and from what I hear I hope I never do.
VodkaOra said on Friday, October 2, 2009, 17:41
Yes – I’ve seen what socialised health care looks like: it looks and feels very very good.
It looks and feels good to know that you’ll have the same care regardless of whether you are rich or poor or young or old.
It feels good to know that the money you’re paying the state in your taxes is being used to take care of you.
It feels god to know that the state sees the good health of their citizens as a primary concern and is ready to do their very best to ensure all its citizens have exactly the same access to health care and are cared for in exactly the same way.
Unfortunately I’ve also seen it disappear as “new liberals” broaden principles of self-reliance and self-sufficiency to health provision: as if if you fall ill it’s your own fault and you alone should pay for it and make provisions for any health needs you may encounter.
My mother is 71 years old. Thanks to “socialised government health care” she is still alive today. Three years ago she was kept in an intensive care unit in an infectious disease ward of a top hospital in an induced comma for 3 months after contracting a lethal infection from a tick bite during a countryside picnic on a lovely summer day…
But for “socialised government health care” I (as her only close relative) would have had to choose between selling mine and my husband’s house to pay for her hospitalisation and recovery (including out-patient care plus all the long term medication she was left on and all the physiotherapy to recover her loss of muscle tissue) or switch the machines off – and I hope no one ever had to face such a choice in their lives.
My father died of cancer 15 years ago. Thanks to “socialised government health care” he had FREE cancer treatment (including several surgeries and chemo) by the best hospital in the country; and when his time had come he was brought home with oxygen tank and all the machines he needed with a regular nurse visiting every day and an oncology nurse visiting twice a week.
Having paid their taxes dutifully all their lives in accordance to their earnings they were fully entitled to it – and they expected and deserved it.
Can your vision of health care – which obviously rejects any government responsibility or participation – match any of this?
Don’t you think that it is a bit childish – if not outright stupid and ignorant – to slight things you know nothing about and just for the sake of opposing them or because you think they smell of ‘left-wing’?